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ATP ([personal profile] app_this_plz) wrote2013-07-27 06:51 pm
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heloise: (@ / marriage)

THE BORGIAS

[personal profile] heloise 2013-07-28 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
HAVE: Lucrezia Borgia
WANT: Juan Borgia, Micheletto, Vanozza Cattaneo, Ascanio Sforza, Caterina Sforza, Giuliano Della Rovere, pretty much everyone!

Have my heart on a dinner plate.

Re: THE BORGIAS

(Anonymous) 2013-08-27 05:24 pm (UTC)(link)
No Cesare? Already done that CR to death?
lucre: (& / young)

Re: THE BORGIAS

[personal profile] lucre 2013-08-28 08:00 am (UTC)(link)
No Cesare in my list of requests because I personally have mixed feelings about having him come back.

Anyone playing him would be thrown off the deep-end into dramaland resulting from some two years of history and conflict between Lucrezia and Ezio, as well as with Stephanie Brown (Ezio's close friend) and Joshua (Lucrezia's lover). It would be super fun to have a Cesare who's game to play out all these things but --and this is a really big but-- I'd rather not have a Cesare who comes in to stir things up and then disappear after 1-2 months, which would leave Lucrezia reeling and pretty much beyond repair. She's still recovering from his departure from the game some months back, even if she doesn't generally show it, but she really is still trying to find her footing again. So this goes back to the whole not wanting a Cesare who comes and goes like the wind.

Lastly, Lucrezia has grown in-game to start thinking that maybe freedom means choosing a path for herself and not allowing her family dictate her every step. As opposed to in the series where she had almost no friends to trust outside her family, she is starting to discover a few here and perhaps even people she can love. Of course Cesare will always be her one true love, her soulmate, but if one comes in expecting me to play out only the C/L fluff without conflict and a tug-o-war playing out from Lucrezia's side, then they'll be sorely disappointed.

Having said all that, I would never stop anyone from applying to play him in [community profile] paradisa!

Re: THE BORGIAS

(Anonymous) 2013-08-28 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
That seems very reasonable! (Sorry. I realised that my earlier comment may have seemed a little curt and rude. Not my intention at all!)

Anyone who is apping a castmate, particularly one with such close cr to a player already in game, should really be considering their fit for it long-term and intend to play for a considerable period of time. Cesare is definitely a character who would cause a lot of disruption merely by his presence.

Personally, the tug of war aspect sounds fantastic to me, though I'm already in a game which is taking up a lot of my time and I originally asked more out of curiosity than looking for somewhere else to play. My focus is right now is not to become a "gone like the wind" Cesare, like the one that you're trying to avoid in Paradisa, so I should really be sticking to my one game right now!

Thank you for answering my question so nicely!
lucre: (& / unloved)

Re: THE BORGIAS

[personal profile] lucre 2013-08-29 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
No worries! I should be the one apologizing for my word vomit there, I just have a lot of feelings

And yes, I don't think my sentiment is really that unique when it comes to really close castmates, especially since Lucrezia and Cesare are so obsessive and dependent on each other that there's no way his presence wouldn't turn her world upside down, whether in a fantastic or terrible way.

That said, if you'd like to try him out and play with me and the Paradisa peeps, we have a Fourth Wall Meme up! I gave my reasons above for having such mixed feelings about Cesare (I LOVE AND I HATE) but I know my fellow muns in game are itching to play with him, so be warned that you'll find yourself flooded with awesome tags from them if you pop in which is less a warning than an invitation, really ;)